codec GSM 6,10 add to philmac

maskoshman · 04-10-2006, 08:42 AM

i dont want to importunate anyone but,
we've got the same problem with my our BHD server.
they won't change the codec to SPEEX, cause were not enough MAC users
(and they have to download a beta version for that) so, i really understand
them. The administrator there is real cool and open to upgrading things
but says that it impossible for the moment.

could you let us know if ventrilo is going to support
the GSM 6.10 codec soon ?

maskoshman

wadesworld · 04-10-2006, 08:52 AM

Quote:

they won't change the codec to SPEEX, cause were not enough MAC users
(and they have to download a beta version for that)

Flagship has stated that the current beta is production quality and it is what he recommends users connecting to a Speex-configured server use. In short, they should have no qualms about using it, since the program's author recommends it.

As for downloading a new version, that's an excuse. They download a new version every time a new Windows version is released without a second thought.

Quote:

The administrator there is real cool and open to upgrading things
but says that it impossible for the moment.

It's not impossible. It would take him fewer than 5 minutes to accomplish. He simply doesn't want to.

Wade

RollinDutch · 04-11-2006, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wadesworld

It's not impossible. It would take him fewer than 5 minutes to accomplish. He simply doesn't want to.

Wade

As someone who's recently changed a large vent server from GSM to Speex, let me tell you - it takes less then 5 minutes to do. Its around 30 seconds to reconfigure and reboot.

Of course, then its 3 hours to try to sort people out with a host of newfound problems, plus you get to answer fun emails for at least a month about how the new codec sucks and it needs to be switched back.

GSM doesnt work with the Mac client, but it is the (far) more reliable option for the windows client.

wadesworld · 04-11-2006, 01:55 AM

And of course there are also people with Speex servers that are having no issues - just to present the other side.

blunt · 04-11-2006, 02:37 AM

Hi I am using a version 2.3.2 prototype 9 or something and the server I need to access is using a version 2.1.2, where can I download this for mac?
Thanks, {can't post new thread for some reason}

maskoshman · 04-11-2006, 06:39 AM

so what i understand is that speex is a lot better, and
ventrilo didnt bother to make the mac version
compatible with the gsm 6,10 codec...
figuring that one day everyone will switch to speex.
is that right ?

it makes sense but...

i still wish it would be compatible

(a couples of buddies of mine (ON PC) are regulars on a
black hawk down server...)

and well...aah, humm...aaah, nevermind

Ur-Jack · 04-11-2006, 06:54 AM

Think it's a tad shortsighted to say " ventrilo didnt bother to make the mac version" because the evidence of the mac prototypem blares to the contrary. It is my estimation that Flag decided to keep vent running on just one client platform whilst he was perfecting the program as a whole; would be easier to develop the app when only worrying about coding on one client to get the major bugs out the client/server operations. it also made sense to make use of the codec which was native to that platform at the time, i.e. GSM on windows. In time, when the development cycle of the mac client has progressed to an officail release, I think we can rest safe in the knowlege that there will be a satisfactory solution to let all clients sing and text-to-speech happily to one another thorugh various servers.

In my vision of the future, I hope that Flag will bring out an entire new version of server and client; one which does away with the GSM codec and only has cross platform alternatives (such as Speex) available so from default set-ups of servers, all clients can connect happily.

maskoshman · 04-11-2006, 08:49 AM

as i said before, i dont want to offend anyone with my writing
(i almost never write in english, im a frenchman from montreal)
cause sometimes the words i use might not be correct.

when i said didnt bother i tought it was worthless cause everyone
is eventually going to be using the speex codec.

anyway, i'm all new at this.
2 weeks ago i didnt know ventrilo, i didnt even kwon that online gaming was possible for a mac owner

.

wadesworld · 04-11-2006, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Hi I am using a version 2.3.2 prototype 9 or something and the server I need to access is using a version 2.1.2, where can I download this for mac?

You can't. And if they're using a version that old, you can bet they're not using the Speex codec so you wouldn't be able to talk/hear anyhow.

Have the server administrator upgrade the server to 2.3 and change the Codec to Speex.

Wade

04-10-2006, 08:42 AM	#1
maskoshman Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 7	codec GSM 6,10 add to philmac i dont want to importunate anyone but, we've got the same problem with my our BHD server. they won't change the codec to SPEEX, cause were not enough MAC users (and they have to download a beta version for that) so, i really understand them. The administrator there is real cool and open to upgrading things but says that it impossible for the moment. could you let us know if ventrilo is going to support the GSM 6.10 codec soon ? maskoshman

04-11-2006, 06:39 AM	#6
maskoshman Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 7	i even got the mic and headset so what i understand is that speex is a lot better, and ventrilo didnt bother to make the mac version compatible with the gsm 6,10 codec... figuring that one day everyone will switch to speex. is that right ? it makes sense but... i still wish it would be compatible (a couples of buddies of mine (ON PC) are regulars on a black hawk down server...) and well...aah, humm...aaah, nevermind

04-11-2006, 08:49 AM	#8
maskoshman Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 7	oops as i said before, i dont want to offend anyone with my writing (i almost never write in english, im a frenchman from montreal) cause sometimes the words i use might not be correct. when i said didnt bother i tought it was worthless cause everyone is eventually going to be using the speex codec. anyway, i'm all new at this. 2 weeks ago i didnt know ventrilo, i didnt even kwon that online gaming was possible for a mac owner .

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04-11-2006, 01:55 AM	#4
wadesworld Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,934	And of course there are also people with Speex servers that are having no issues - just to present the other side.

04-11-2006, 02:37 AM	#5
blunt Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2	Hi I am using a version 2.3.2 prototype 9 or something and the server I need to access is using a version 2.1.2, where can I download this for mac? Thanks, {can't post new thread for some reason}

04-11-2006, 06:54 AM	#7
Ur-Jack Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 327	Think it's a tad shortsighted to say " ventrilo didnt bother to make the mac version" because the evidence of the mac prototypem blares to the contrary. It is my estimation that Flag decided to keep vent running on just one client platform whilst he was perfecting the program as a whole; would be easier to develop the app when only worrying about coding on one client to get the major bugs out the client/server operations. it also made sense to make use of the codec which was native to that platform at the time, i.e. GSM on windows. In time, when the development cycle of the mac client has progressed to an officail release, I think we can rest safe in the knowlege that there will be a satisfactory solution to let all clients sing and text-to-speech happily to one another thorugh various servers. In my vision of the future, I hope that Flag will bring out an entire new version of server and client; one which does away with the GSM codec and only has cross platform alternatives (such as Speex) available so from default set-ups of servers, all clients can connect happily.