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HalloranATL 07-31-2015 11:03 AM

Windows 10 Bug? - Ducking not working
 
Curious if anyone else is running into this issue, namely that the Ducking functionality of Windows 10 does not seem to be working with Ventrilo 3.0.8. This was not an issue in Windows 8.1.

I've tried different applications, but can't seem to get the volume to automatically lower by 80% and then raise up again in the configured ms window within the Vent client.

Using a Creative Recon3D soundcard.

Is anyone else running into this issue?

Prog-Rocker 07-31-2015 11:20 AM

i will test this once i get 10 installed.

have you tried setting vent to use a compatibility mode?

rt-clik vent icon > properties > compatibility tab

HalloranATL 07-31-2015 01:00 PM

Not yet, will try that tonight. Curious though if anyone else is having this experience.

Moved this from another thread:
I'm running an Analog set of headphones with microphone into my Sound Blaster Recond3D sound card. The ducking option is configured at 80% reduction in Windows. The first two boxes are checked in Ventrilo. I'm also running the 64-bit client in the 64-bit version of windows.

Ducking does not occur whether I transmit or receive.

The fact that this works for you suggests that I need to run a test with Mumble or TeamSpeak as well to see if the issue is isolated to Ventrilo. Will check that tonight.

The odd thing again is that this worked well under Windows 8.1 just two nights ago, with no other configuration changes.

Flagship 07-31-2015 07:12 PM

What sound programs are you running that would be "ducked" when the appropriate trigger occurs?

HalloranATL 07-31-2015 08:33 PM

Typically WoW, *******, and Heroes of the Storm. Might not be a Ventrilo problem, still researching.

HalloranATL 07-31-2015 09:18 PM

As a follow-up, it's worth mentioning that effects like Compressor also do not seem to work.

Flagship 08-03-2015 10:54 AM

Is the program opening the "Error message list" window and saying that it can't start ducking?

Prog-Rocker 08-03-2015 11:14 AM

I've duplicated this on my win10 using WMP. ducking works on same pc with win 7 and 8 although the only options that work are all/nothing. could not get the 50/80 to work.

will continue to test

note: testing with:

onboard realtek. asus mobo (native windows driver)

logitech g930 (windows 10 driver)

asus xonor dgx (windows 8.0 driver) (WMP and winamp)

update:

ducking not working on any audio device

Flagship 08-03-2015 11:23 AM

Note: I was getting an error message because I didn't have a microphone connected. Oops. But once I plugged in a microphone the error message went away.

I'm using onboard audio using WMP as the music player. WMP on older OS's would pause playing when ducking is enabled and continue when ducking stopped. However this does not seem to work on Win10.

Beginning to think that Windows 10 has dropped ducking support or has been implemented as a new API. Will have to do some research to find an answer one way or the other.

Flagship 08-03-2015 11:32 AM

Doesn't work with the Groove audio player either.

Flagship 08-06-2015 08:49 PM

Status update:

I've made some headway with this issue and have discovered a few things. There are several ways of ducking the system and the technique I used doesn't work on Win10 but works fine from Vista thru Win8.1

I'll be spending a few days reworking the ducking support so that it works correctly on all of these OS's. With any luck I'll have a new version sometime next week.

Will advise.

--Flag

HalloranATL 08-07-2015 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flagship (Post 4215564)
Is the program opening the "Error message list" window and saying that it can't start ducking?

No error messages are appearing. Btw, this issue also occurs with the currently released Creative Recon3D drivers. Wonder if the Communication % throttling option just doesn't work in Windows 10.

HalloranATL 08-08-2015 10:58 AM

Tested Windows Ducking on a Skype call, it seems that it may be a Ventrilo-specific issue.

Likely as was mentioned due to the re-implementation of how Ducking was handled in Windows 10.

HalloranATL 08-15-2015 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flagship (Post 4215594)
Status update:

I've made some headway with this issue and have discovered a few things. There are several ways of ducking the system and the technique I used doesn't work on Win10 but works fine from Vista thru Win8.1

I'll be spending a few days reworking the ducking support so that it works correctly on all of these OS's. With any luck I'll have a new version sometime next week.

Will advise.

--Flag

Sounds painful. You have to love changes like this.

Any luck with the new version, or need a tester?

Blaknight 09-03-2015 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flagship (Post 4215594)
Status update:

I've made some headway with this issue and have discovered a few things. There are several ways of ducking the system and the technique I used doesn't work on Win10 but works fine from Vista thru Win8.1

I'll be spending a few days reworking the ducking support so that it works correctly on all of these OS's. With any luck I'll have a new version sometime next week.

Will advise.

--Flag

How are we going with this issue. Has been doing my head in since I got Windows 10.

Prog-Rocker 09-10-2015 12:50 PM

update:

the Devs have fixed the ducking problem but discovered another issue during testing. should be released soon.

amamoto 09-27-2015 03:51 PM

any eta...

lagojeep 09-27-2015 08:33 PM

Also having ducking issues with Windows 10 here. Please advise us as to an ETA for fix.

Thank you

HalloranATL 10-15-2015 12:10 PM

Any updates on this fix?

amamoto 10-18-2015 07:05 PM

i would happily volunteer to be a beta tester for any fix to ducking.

amamoto 11-28-2015 12:51 AM

microsoft is starting to push out windows 10 as a windows 7/8 system update.

amamoto 12-13-2015 09:53 PM

nevermind. our ventrilo provider allows us to switch to other voip servers at no cost. mumble seems to handle our needs. we did try to make this work. but ducking not working was a deal breaker.

Prog-Rocker 12-14-2015 10:20 AM

I'll try to get a status on this as i'm using win10 now too.

amamoto 12-18-2015 03:29 PM

Quote:

It would be nice if the old Ventrilo 2.3.X code branch was open sourced so I could add in the above functionality while keeping its simplicity (sticking to what appears to be the Win32 API for most functions.)
I second this, let us at least help on the client side.

Prog-Rocker 01-25-2016 11:24 AM

update:

there is still an issue that absolutely must be resolved before the win10 fix can be released. I don't have any more details other than that at this time.

and yes, the main page icon is being adjusted for proper appearance on different platforms.


to all: i apologize for the lack of updates but i just didn't want to post a 'no update' . it was not a case of ignoring everyone.

shofixti 07-17-2016 09:13 PM

Old thread, but I've looked around to see if there are any updates on ducking in Windows 10 and haven't found anything. How's the fix coming?

Prog-Rocker 07-18-2016 09:31 AM

for the record:

I have been actively testing version 4

shofixti 07-23-2016 05:25 AM

Thanks for the updates, Omicron and Prog-Rocker. It'd be great to get even a remote ETA on the update, but I understand if that's just not reasonable.

Vent's been a solid program for many years and while there are more modern tools, it's still very good at what it does; for my use (WoW guild with some in North America and others in Australia) its voice quality still beats the rest in terms of lack of auto-tune and dropped audio.

That said, it sure is cool to be able to have the sound from the game on, but be able to hear when others talk. :)

MichaelDays 08-05-2016 05:13 AM

I've just went back to my windows 7 pro. after trying many times to do the free upgrade and failed everytime during the installation process. Through my frustration in trying to deal with the issue I decided that its just not even worth fussing over. Microsoft really do need to step up they're game and fine tune these newer OS before even releasing it.


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